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Bowlers Design Pro Shop
07-25-2011, 01:55 PM
I have enough games on this ball to give an accurate assessment of this ball. I was able to use it on a THS and the 2009/2010 PBA Viper, which is a really tough pattern. I was able to play outside and inside with good carry, on this high volume pattern. I have kept the cover at OOB, I see no reason so far to change it, I may change it on my second drilling, by adding some polish.
The layout I chose was 60X3X35 with a P3 weight hole.
When MOTIV said they were putting a ball on the market to compete with the high end equipment that would be the longest ball to date I got really excited. Everything MOTIV makes is first quality and hits with major authority. The new RAPTOR is amazing, really amazing, if you have any of another companies high end balls, you MUST try the RAPTOR. Motiv has lived up to alll the hype on this one, I get a clean move off the breakpoint, nothing snappy or jumpy, the ball goes long/strong and when it makes it's move, it goes and goes right threw the pin deck with that amazing MOTIV sound. This ball is fun!
If you did not pre-order, ask your pro shop when this ball will be in, you will be happy you drilled one of these.
Bowlers Design Pro Shop
Member MOTIV staff, www.motivbowling.com
08-01-2011, 12:48 PM
My Information:Right handed
Ball speed-15 mph average,Rev rate-280 average
Axis rotation-45 degrees,Axis tilt-15 degrees
Weight-15lbs 2oz.,pin-4 3/4",Top weight-3.0 oz.
Surface prep of ball-4000 wet sand with 2 steps of MOTIV
Power Gel Polish
Drill pattern used-55x45@4 1/2",P2 hole,1 1/2" deep,with 1' bi
Type of lane surface Pro Anvilane 3 years old
Raptor P7 Information-
Coverstock-Formula 7 Reactive
Ball Surface-4000 wet sand
Color-Purple/Black with with green and white logos
15 lb.ball -RG-2.46,Diff-.060,Int.Diff-.015,
Manufacturer Intent-Heavy oil
This new MOTIV release is intended for heavy oil,and it doesn't disappoint.
The new core and coverstock combo gives MOTIV a new look on
the lanes not yet seen in a MOTIV ball.
The Raptor P7 will help bowlers who may be a little rev challenged.The
strong and quick reaction to the dry at the end of the pattern is perfect
for this type of style.Crankers will also love the look of this ball on heavy oil
when they need to be left of the tweeners and strokers.
The Raptor P7 clears the heads easier than you would think from a ball
this strong.It stores the energy for midlane and the backend.This is where
the ball starts to shine.The amount of friction in the mids doesn't take anything away from the backend reaction.The strength at the breakpoint
is very heavy and continuous almost skid flip.A ball with this much
backend is rare.The recovery on the backends is the Raptors greatest
strength.Even as the oil carried down to the back of the pattern,the Raptor
just keep motoring toward the pocket.There was never any quit.
Going around the pattern is a lot easier when you are confident
that the ball you are using is going to make it around the corner,and not
quit on you.The ball continuation through the pocket is outstanding,and the
pin carry is fantastic.
Very few balls,if any,will cover this amount of area and not quit on you.The
Raptor P7 makes heavy oil patterns look easy.
If you have not owned a MOTIV ball before,this is the one to own.
Side note:Over the last seven weeks on my Tuesday doubles league,I
have shot 680/697/740/837 with a 290 & 300 the last two games with
the last 23 in a row. And a 707/735/714.
08-26-2011, 09:18 AM
First off, I have to thank JustinWi for suggesting the layout for my ball. It does exactly what I wanted the ball to do.
Pin Length - 3.5
Starting Top Weight - 3.5
Ball Weight - 15.4
Pin to PAP - 4
CG to PAP -
X Hole (if needed) - P1.5
MB Location - 1/4" left of thumb
Drill Angle - 60
VAL Angle - 40
Rev Rate - 415
Ball Speed - 19
PAP/Track - 4 7/8" left 3/4" up
PICTURE AND VIDEO LINKS
Grit - 4000
Type (Matte, Polish, Sanded) - Wet sanded
Length - 44'
Volume - Medium-Heavy
Type (Wall, Xmas Tree, Sport) - Kegel High Street Pattern
Length - 8
Back End - 10+
Overall Hook - 10+
Midlane Read - 9
Breakpoint Shape - Extremely Angular
Carry - Carry is almost laughable. Typical light hit reaction sent pins everywhere. I could miss purposely and still carry a solid hit.
Likes - Wow, what can I say? This ball is simply amazing. Once in a great while, you come across a ball that makes you feel like a better bowler. The last ball I can remember that made me feel that way was the Pearl Cherry Bomb. This ball has the potential to be the best ball on the market.
Dislikes - Ball smelled like a box of car wax when it came out of the box
Other - Can't wait to see how it handles surface changes
08-29-2011, 10:19 AM
This was one of my initial MOTIV pieces drilled as a MOTIV Staffer. This ball is by far the strongest ball I have thrown from the foul line to the pins. It DOESN’T hook early and DOESN’T have a smooth arc like most pieces designed for heavy oil. This piece picks up VERY strong midlane and has a VERY continuous motion on the backend. This ball is versatile for all types of styles and can open up the lane even heavier flatter patterns.
My first session with the Raptor was on a typical house shot with a synthetic surface and this ball struck for days. Even though I was on a typical house pattern, it somehow, made it look even easier. It also allowed me to play a house pattern even further in than I normally would and still blended the pattern. This ball can cover as many boards (or more) as a skid/flip ball, except the ball is much more controllable.
You can see my video here:
Being one of my initial MOTIV pieces, I also noticed the cover factor. With a higher ball speed and moderate rev rate, I tend to throw pieces with surface. Before drilling exclusively MOTIV, a ball that started with a 1000 grit surface, looked more like it had a 4000 grit surface after a game or two. After throwing the Raptor 6 plus games on a fresh condition I noticed the ball did NOT get shinier, it was very consistent with the out of box surface.
If you are looking for a ball to transition to after the Raptor, look for my review on the Sigma Tour!
If you haven’t drilled a MOTIV piece, make this your first. You will not be disappointed!
MOTIV Staff Member
11-10-2011, 10:40 AM
- COLOR: Black/Purple
- INNER CORE: Predator
- COVERSTOCK: Formula-7 Reactive
- FINISH: 4000 Wet Sand
- FLARE: 7"+
- RG: 16#-2.46 15#-2.46 14#-2.48 13#-2.52 12#-2.59
- RG DIFFERENTIAL: 16#-.060 15#- .060 14#-.060 13#-.051 12#.037
- RECOMMENDED LANE CONDITION: Heavy Oil
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal
- DESCRIPTION: The Raptor P7 certainly soars beyond expectation. It is an amazing high performance ball featuring the new Predator asymmetric core and new Formula-7 Reactive coverstock. The reaction produced is astounding. It is long, very strong, and has incredible continuation. Get MOTIVated!
Likes:If you want strength this is the ball for you....No MOTIV joins the ranks of demolition in the heavy oil patterns. Ive been searching for a ball that fits my game in the oil and now I have that MONSTER in the Raptor. With the early read and conservation of energy this ball allows me to get through the heavy oil and still make the turn when needed. The bonus is that this baby still retains the energy needed to smash the pocket. This is by far the stronget ball in my bag and first out when im bowling some of the heavier oil patterns on the PBA circuit. If your A game is in or you are looking for something for those oily patterns you have to have a Raptor! With this ball complimenting my Sigma Tour and new Primal Impulse I have everything I need !
Get MOTIV-ated and GET THIS BALL! You wont be dissapointed!
Dislikes: None...just know this ball is for OIL!!!!!!! you can modify the shell to extend the lenght but this is definitely an OIL killer!!!!!!!
01-08-2012, 08:37 PM
Thoughts from a demo day:
This was the first ball I tried, and for me it was the least impressive. Unless I brought my speed down to 16 MPH or lower, the Raptor had trouble making the turn for me. Most likely, this was a layout issue. My high speed and tilt combo causes a lot of skid, so I need drillings that get the ball into a roll earlier. With the layout provided, the ball struggled to start up for me until I dropped my speed.
With my speed down, the reaction was smooth and strong. In the oil, the ball was easily 5 boards stronger than the Sigma Tour. The ball read the midlane well and had a nice arc shape to it. The ball appeared to be slightly more angular for other bowlers (especially the rev dominant), but it wasn't angular off the spot for anyone I saw.
The strength of the ball gave me some area right if I missed, but I didn't get any hold if I missed in. The ball is able to handle oil, so I was through the nose on anything left inside. This ball does like oil though; my best look was a slow hook through the oil with a breakpoint at 12.
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