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Old 09-30-2008, 02:50 PM
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Hey guys! I am looking for a new ball, and I hear alot about pin and top weight. I was wondering if a few of you guys could tell me exactly what they do for the ball and how they affect the drilling, if any??

Also...when everyone describes their drillings...they always say that it is drilled 4X5...or numbers like that....can someone tell me what these numbers mean, and what they are used for?

I have asked the proshop here in town, and he told me that top weight really doesn't matter. He can make anything work, but I would like to know exactly what it affects on the ball?
I also asked him about pin, whether it be 1"-2" or 2"-3" or even 3"-4"
He told me that the shorter the pin, the earlier the ball will start to hook on the lane.....is this correct, and could someone please go into some more detail for me!

Most of my equipment is 2"-3" pin and top weights vary all over the place!

I am looking at getting the NEW Cell Pearl, and I want to know what these figures and numbers mean, so I can be sure what specs to ask for when purchasing the ball???? Thanks!!!

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Old 09-30-2008, 04:25 PM
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Re: Choosing pin and top weight???

for me i try to stay pretty neutral
that looks like

2-3 oz top weight
2-4 in pin ( i dont like to get to far past 3 though )

im no expurt, but i have had balls that were really whacked out before
way to much top weight gigantic weight holes, no carry, no reaction etc....
and the ball never would roll right imo

i have gotten some short pin balls, and i really like the way they roll early, but there it depends how you lay the ball out

i.e. pin above bridge pin below
where is your CG
mass bias etc....

neutral ball for me allow the ball the most options as to how to lay it out depending on what type of reaction you are wanting from your ball.

i have come to believe that you need to have a complimentry drill for what your ball is supposed to be like

i.e. drill a strong ball strong, and a weak ball weak.

as for all the other freally technical stuff your gonna have to get from the pro's

4x5 and the like are talking about dimensions they have their pin in relation to their pap
and grip center
val
3-3/8 x 3-3/8 creates max flare

i know im an idiot ill shut up.............
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Re: Choosing pin and top weight???

Thanks bowlerdawg!

Can anyone take this further into detail?? PLEASE!!!!
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Re: Choosing pin and top weight???

basically .. more top weight = more skid and more flip at the back
and
further the pin out = more skid too

I would keep the top wight between 2-3oz as it will allow you to drill most if not all possible layouts .. if you go for 4+oz top weight, some layouts will not be an option

as for the pin distance,
shorter pin = early roll with arc backend
longer pin = late roll with more backend

it really depends on the type of the ball and the lane condition and your style too
high revs bowler will go for longer pins and those with much less revs will go for shorter pins

when I make an order from lane1, I ask for more pinouts 3-4 and 4-5
in my previous order, all the buzzbombs with 4-5 pinout were sold first cause we have lots of high rev bowlers

for most, top weight 2-3oz and pinout 2-3 should be ok ... however if you know how you want to drill the ball and which condition you will be using it for ahead, you might alter those specs to get much better results .. for example, you might actually want 3-4 or 4-5 pinout

but it all comes down to your style and which layouts fit best for you
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