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Old 01-13-2014, 12:15 PM
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Pete Weber, via a Facebook post, requested thoughts and prayers for Ryan Shafer and his family. He neglected to say what happen. Anyone have a clue on this?

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His wife passed away.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:22 PM
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Thank you.

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Re: Ryan Shafer

RevZ kind of included this news in his "sad day" post.

From what I've read, his wife had been battling with depression and she committed suicide. So very sad and my thoughts go out to his family at this very difficult time.

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Old 01-13-2014, 01:16 PM
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This is terrible news. I am local to Ryan and have been present when he's done things for the community. Thoughts and prayers to Ryan and his family.

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Old 01-13-2014, 01:21 PM
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Can't believe the PBA doesn't have something about this on their front page.

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Old 01-13-2014, 01:24 PM
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Can't believe the PBA doesn't have something about this on their front page.
I think he's got more on his mind than releasing an official statement. It's not (technically) public news, so the PBA would be out of place saying anything about it.
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Old 01-13-2014, 01:26 PM
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Suicide, terrible..poor guy and his family

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Can't believe the PBA doesn't have something about this on their front page.
And it should not. Anyone's suicide is not a news item, period.

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Old 01-13-2014, 01:54 PM
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I think he's got more on his mind than releasing an official statement. It's not (technically) public news, so the PBA would be out of place saying anything about it.
True, but it wouldn't have to be HIS official press release.
Just a note of condolence from the PBA to a grieving member would be nice. They can always elaborate later, if necessary.

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Old 01-13-2014, 01:56 PM
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And it should not. Anyone's suicide is not a news item, period.
There is no need to mention suicide at all! This is not an expose.
A long time member's wife has died, no matter the cause.

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Old 01-13-2014, 02:09 PM
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True, but it wouldn't have to be HIS official press release.
Just a note of condolence from the PBA to a grieving member would be nice. They can always elaborate later, if necessary.
But, until it's confirmed officially, it'd just be conjecture. They'd have to say "as we've seen on facebook", or whatever. Facebook's not a news source, yet. And who knows. Maybe they've tried to contact RS to see if he'd be comfortable with that, and haven't heard back, or were told "no". No way to know.
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I would like to think the PBA would consult with Ryan before posting anything. Very sad nonetheless.
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I'm a old reporter, and the ethics of the situation are clear cut: nobody reports on suicides either in the form of a media release or through a media outlet. Those types of deaths are considered taboo to discuss in such a way. The only exception to that are public figures of huge repute. Ryan's wife was not a public person in any way.

The difference here is social media, which, unfortunately, is almost like a 1930's party line.

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I'm a old reporter, and the ethics of the situation are clear cut: nobody reports on suicides either in the form of a media release or through a media outlet. Those types of deaths are considered taboo to discuss in such a way. The only exception to that are public figures of huge repute. Ryan's wife was not a public person in any way.

The difference here is social media, which, unfortunately, is almost like a 1930's party line.
Ok, for the last time in plain English:
I am NOT asking that the PBA report she committed suicide. They shouldn't!!!
I am saying they should express condolences on her passing without any comment whatsoever on the manner of her death.

Maybe they're waiting for the right way to do it. I don't know.

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Ok, for the last time in plain English:
I am NOT asking that the PBA report she committed suicide. They shouldn't!!!
I am saying they should express condolences on her passing without any comment whatsoever on the manner of her death.
Well, you never said that. You just said 'something.' So, I just wanted to explain why that wasn't likely.

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Ok, for the last time in plain English:
I am NOT asking that the PBA report she committed suicide. They shouldn't!!!
I am saying they should express condolences on her passing without any comment whatsoever on the manner of her death.

Maybe they're waiting for the right way to do it. I don't know.
If it means anything, I understood what you were saying from the get go...lol

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sad day indeed , ive never met ryan but ive been told hes pretty damn nice guy
and has had a rough last couple of years with this battle. i feel terrible for him
and i wish him all the best

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I have met Ryan at a PRO AM and he is a super nice guy. Truly is a sad event that happened. My thoughts and prayers are with him and his family.
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Turns out he was bowling in an event in my hometown when he got the news. Was getting ready for roll-offs and then disappeared. So sad.

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Ok, for the last time in plain English:
I am NOT asking that the PBA report she committed suicide. They shouldn't!!!
I am saying they should express condolences on her passing without any comment whatsoever on the manner of her death.

Maybe they're waiting for the right way to do it. I don't know.
Because posting it in any way will give rise to questions that Mr. Shafer probably doesn't want asked. How about you wait until Mr. Shafer releases something? I mean, what the hell? The PBA members probably all know since PDW put it on his face book asking for condolences and now BBE knows. What else do you require in this time of Mr. Shafer's anguish and personal pain.
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Because posting it in any way will give rise to questions that Mr. Shafer probably doesn't want asked. How about you wait until Mr. Shafer releases something? I mean, what the hell? The PBA members probably all know since PDW put it on his face book asking for condolences and now BBE knows. What else do you require in this time of Mr. Shafer's anguish and personal pain.
Unlike you, I don't require anything.
I believein kindness and consideration and they should do this out of respect to help assuage his "anguish and personal pain".

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charlest, I can see both sides of this... In this day and age of digital trolling / bullying on social media, some folks may take sick satisfaction in mocking Ryan. With privacy, the chances are less.

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I know that if my wife died, the last thing I'd want would be an employer releasing a statement about it, condolences or not. #shruggity
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Today, the 2013 Steve Nagy Sportsmanship Award was given to to Ryan Shafer. Eugene McCune accepted on his behalf.

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Turns out he was bowling in an event in my hometown when he got the news. Was getting ready for roll-offs and then disappeared. So sad.

Yup, I was actually standing talking to him and a group of others and he was telling jokes and laughing, then an hour later is when he got the news and rushed home. The mood of the bowling alley turned quickly after that. Very sad
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